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“The Perfect Flying Saucer”

“An eminent British scientist, R. V. Jones, headed a standing committee created in June 1951 on flying saucers. Jones’ and his committee’s conclusions on UFOs were similar to those of Agency officials: the sightings were not enemy aircraft but misrepresentations of natural phenomena. The British noted, however, that during a recent air show RAF pilots and senior military officials had observed a “perfect flying saucer.”
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“One of the cases in the files that Dr Clarke finds most tantalising, involved two sightings by an RAF test pilot, Stan Hubbard, in 1950. In the first sighting, he reported seeing a flying “discus shape”, around 100ft in diameter, approaching and pass overhead as he was walking along the runway at Farnborough airfield.
Two weeks later, he was in the airfield’s control tower with five other airmen when they spotted a similar object and watched it for around 10 minutes. The incidents were investigated by the MoD’s “Flying Saucer Working Party”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6209733/UFO-sightings-over-Britain-more-than-triple-this-year.html

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Interview with Stan J. Hubbard
now retired from RAF 

Flying Saucer Working Party: FS over Farnborough:

DC: So you had been at Farnborough for two years when this incident with the flying saucer occurred?
SH: That’s right. It was August 1950.

DC: Can I now take you back to that August morning in 1950 when you had your first sighting. What happened?
SH: I had been away for three weeks out West and I had come back the previous day. I had flown a Fiesler Storch [WW2 German reconnaissance plane] back from as far west as you can go without getting your feet wet! The top speed is about 75 mph. It took me ages and ages to get back to Farnborough, but anyway I had written my report, a final report on three weeks’ work, and I had submitted it that morning and I was very pleased that it had been accepted and felt that I could get away for an early lunch. So I left the old Flying Control building and set off directly for the mess. In those days there was no problem about walking straight to where you were going, there were no security fences, we just got a green flashing light from flying control and went straight across the runway to No. 1 Mess, which was my home in those days.
I had gone about 150 or 200 yards and this was one of those rare mornings. It was warm, there was no air movement, there was no aircraft noise, nothing flying, no aircraft engines being revved up on the ground, no traffic noise at all, it was dead quiet. So I was surprised to hear a very strange sound that was coming from somewhere behind me, and it impinged upon my consciousness. I was thinking about other things, but I stopped and I turned around to see what it could be. I then saw a very strange object way in the distance, I think towards Basingstoke.
I watched this thing and it was for all the world like the edge-on view of a discus, the sort of discus we used to throw at sports meetings…and it was rocking from side to side very slightly, probably 20-25 degrees either side, rhythmically rocking but maintaining a very straight approach. I watched it and it moved very quickly and passed overhead. And I tell you, that was something that has stuck in my mind very clearly, vividly, to this day.

DC: How would you describe it?
SH: As a discus, without obvious characteristics. It was a light grey colour a bit like mother of pearl, but blurred. It was obviously reflecting light because as it rocked it looked like a pan lid as you rotate it, with segments of light rotating around. And I could see that around the edge as it went overhead I could see very clearly it was a different colour, it had a definite edge to it. And the whole of the edge was a mass of tiny crackling, sparkling lights. And associated with that, there was a real impact of very very strong ozone smell and it was for all the world like the sound you would get when you walk through the door into a big active power generation station with huge rotors turning with the smell of ozone and the crackling of commutators…

DC: Was there any windows or protuberances or anything like that?
SH: No other characteristics at all. It was featureless. And the remarkable thing about it was there was no sound of air movement. No air displacement whatsoever.

DC: Were you able to estimate how far away it was from you?
SH: I would have said, remembering the angle when I first saw it and when it disappeared from sight, it had to be something in the order of 100 feet across. I was asked at the first interview: ‘How fast was it travelling?’ I had no idea. I had no idea whether it accelerated, or slowed down. But from the time when I was watching it, until it went out of sight I would estimate that it was travelling about 500 mph. But then again I don’t know how high it was, but the span it covered whilst I was watching it meant that it must have been travelling fairly fast.

DC: How long did you watch it in all before it disappeared?
SH: Difficult to say, but probable a minute and a half, two minutes.

DC: Was there anyone else about at that time?
SH: I was alone, contrary to what has been reported. But as it had just gone over, from the little wooden hut that was the Dispatcher’s shack, the young lady that ran that came over screaming…screaming my name, she knew me very well, and saying, ‘Did you see that horrible thing?’ I didn’t answer; I was so absolutely whacked at watching what I had seen. I don’t know what happened but I learned later that she had been taken ill and was quite hysterical about it.
DC: So had she seen the same thing as you?
SH: She had seen exactly the same thing.
DC: So the second sighting you made, how long after was that?
SH: It was getting on for a month. I forget the date, it was September 1950. We were up by the flying control building. This was on an afternoon. It was an overcast day, and it was quiet, and there was a cloud base, about 8/8 cloud, at about 4-5,000 feet. There was a layer of cumulus, and we’d watched the first test take off of the P1081, which had been built by the Hawker company but had been finally been assembled at Farnborough. Wimpy Wade, the chief test pilot took it up to do the first flight, very important, he was going up for 15-20 minutes for the first flight and we were gathered on the roof of the old control building to watch him return, which he eventually did.
But meanwhile, down south of the airfield I saw this object. And I thought, ‘my goodness me.’ I grabbed hold of the chap next to me, which happened to be Jack Spencer, our civilian boss, my immediate boss, not the Chief Test Pilot, and I said: ‘Hey Jack, what do you think that is?’ pointing….and he shouted: ‘MYYY…GOD! Go get a camera, quick!’ Nobody went to get a camera. ‘Go get some binoculars!’ Somebody did go off, I think it was ‘Taffy’ Evans…I think he went off to grab a camera and some binoculars. He came back with binoculars later, but a number of other people had gathered by this time and we watched it for seven or eight minutes. And what a performance – it really was. It was incredible. The hovering was, an unstable hovering over a spot, and then it would suddenly take off…pppphhhewww…fast…and it was going, the angular distances were quite wide…

Need to Know: 
UFOs, the Military, and Intelligence
 By Timothy Good

In it’s final report, Classified/Secret Discreet, the FSWP reviewed it’s investigation, including reports by RAF pilots. The most interesting of these took place at the experimental aircraft test center at the Royal Aircraft Establishment, Farnborough, Hampshire in August 1950 reported by Flight Lieutenant (later wing commander) Stan Hubbard and others:

F/Lt.  Hubbard an experienced pilot said that at 11:27 on 14th August, 1950, he and two other officers on the airfield heard a subdued humming noise, like a model Diesel motor, which caused them to search the sky overhead… the other two officers saw nothing but F/Lt. Hubbard who alone was wearing sun-glassses, states that he saw, almost directly overhead at first sighting an object which he describes as a flat disc, light pearl grey in colour,  about 50 ft. in diameter  at an estimated height of 5000 feet. he stated that he kept it under observation for 30 seconds, during which period it traveled, at a speed estimated at 800-1000 mph, on a heading of a 100 degree, executing a series of S-turns oscillating so that light reflection came from different segments as it moved.

The second incident occurred during preparations for the annual FarnBorough Air Display:

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2 Responses to “RAF Test Pilot – Stan Hubbard UFO Sighting 1950”

  • Deepa Nebb:

    Hi,
    Iam the daughter of a very dear freind of wg cdr Stan Hubbard. My father late Air cly share his Tele/mbl nos with me .de Arjan Bhawnani IAF and he were very dear friends .
    I would be very grateful if You would kindly share his contact nos mbland tele nos withme . He religiously sends Christmas wishes to them and Iam sad to state that both are no more . I wish to inform him personally.
    Regards
    Deepa Nebb nee Bhawnani.

  • Deepa Nebb:

    Hi,
    Iam the daughter of a very dear friend of wg cdr Stan Hubbard. My father late Air cmde Arjan Bhawnani IAF were very dear friends and served together in India
    I would be very grateful if You would kindly share his contact nos mbl and tele nos with me . He religiously sends Christmas wishes to them and Iam sad to state that both are no more . I wish to inform him personally.
    Regards
    Deepa Nebb nee Bhawnani.

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